SEEKING BARRY McMANUS OF ARDROSSAN

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Re: SEEKING BARRY McMANUS OF ARDROSSAN

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Jim McCreadie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:59 am Alternatively, my home e-Mail address is:
bucephalus49ATbigpond.com - replace AT with the usual.
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Jim, John Bone has got back to me and advised me that that email address (or with .au) isn't reachable. It's also not the one linked to your account here. So I'll alert you to that via PM just in case you haven't ticked the box to be Notified when a reply is posted to this topic.
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Updating this enquiry for viewing by Mr Rodger Pirnie.
Rodger, I am unable to contact you directly. I am in possession of certain documentation which rightfully belongs to William's family; ie. you.
I located documentation (not that above) which lists him as "Master, Formigny D 6/44". D 6/44 probably refers to D-Day June/1944. "Formigny" participated in Operation Overlord as either a block-ship or part of "Mulberry". However, as his award is gazetted during very early June 1944, it is highly unlikely the action for which it was awarded was related to D-Day.
As I am extremely keen to view his OBE Citation (purely for personal genealogical purposes), would you consider an exchange of documentation? If so, may I suggest it be conducted via our respective postal services and therefore not available on-line to anyone.
I can be contacted via my e-mail address at q98929#gmail.com Please substitute the usual symbol in lieu of # which I inserted to defeat scammers.
Thank you sincerely
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Jim,

You will have all the information contained therein but may not have seen the actual family intimation and contributed obtituary in the Glasgow Herald.

GLASGOW HERALD
5 MARCH 1963

DEATH - McCREADIE

At Glenafton Hospital, New Cumnock, on 3rd March, 1963, William McCreadie, O.B.E., (master mariner), aged 76 years, beloved husband of Annie McDonald, 175 Glasgow Street, Ardrossan. Funeral to Ardrossan Cemetery tomorrow (Wednesday) at 2.30 p.m.; friends wishing to attend meet cortege at cemetery gates.

OBITUARY - CAPTAIN WILLIAM McCREADIE

Captain William McCreadie, 175 Glasgow Street, Ardrossan, has died in an Ayrshire hospital. He was 76. Captain McCreadie was one of a dwindling number to hold a master's certificate in sail and steam. He served through two world wars and was awarded the O.B.E. for gallantry.

During the Spanish Civil War he was captain of a ship carrying food which successfully ran the blockade.
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Yes thanks, I have all that data. It's the Citation of his OBE I'm searching for. Another extended family relative was awarded the Military Medal for which I hold the Citation clearly signed by Bernard Law Montgomery. I wish I could locate William's.
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Jim,

I hope I’m wrong in your case and that you find the citation you are looking for, but there may not be one. Unless I’m mistaken, Captain McCreadie, despite receiving his O.B.E. for gallantry at sea during the war, got it through the Civil Division as opposed to the Military Division, where citations describing courageous deeds were normal.

I have friends, however, who have received M.B.E.s, O.B.E.s and C.B.E.s through the Civil Division and none of them ever saw a narrative describing specifically why. Any press release or literature from Buckingham Palace simply said “for services to” – e.g. policing – charity – sport, etc. In other words, anything presented to or published in respect of Captain McCreadie may simply have said, “for gallantry at sea.”

However, no award could have been made without someone submitting a full narrative for the consideration of those who made the final decision on his O.B.E. and that would be an interesting read if still available.
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Ah, you learn something new every day. I never thought of that. Thank you for your explanation.
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