Thank you very much for the response. I seem to remember a Gordon at Herdmans. If you were dark haired young guy with a beard and moustache then I may well remember you.

I found these posts by accident and was intrigued to find a discussion about Herdmans the bakers and my father Hume Black, and grandfather Neil Black. I realise the last post on this was a long time ago but hopefully some of your are still out there. I cannot help you with the recipes but I am sure ...