Local Elections - An Opportunity to Stuff May

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sweet caroline wrote:That's only for EU countries, or Countries with a Free Trade with the EU. Whisky goes world wide.



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Jeezo, it makes no difference how far it goes. The fact is, it's a complete myth that Scottish whisky is taxed at the point where it is exported, which is a popular myth peddled by certain people, including wings over Scotland, the website that is held up as the champion of Scottish independence.
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I think the reason we lost the first indy ref was because to say yes required a leap in the dark and many were understandably wary - even afraid - of the uncertainty. Better to stick with the devil you know. Now, however, both options are uncertain - Brexit with the Tories or Independence with the SNP. Who do you trust or (if you prefer) which devil do you want to stick with?
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Neither one appeals.

The devil walks the Earth with the face of any politician.

As JD said, it has been years of a country run by thugs and nobody knows the best way forward anymore.

I am still going with the 'United we stand.. Divided we fall' option.
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Scottish Whisky Association
Research from the Scotch Whisky Association has found that, despite only drinking 17.5% of all Scotch Whisky consumed in the European Union, consumers of Scotch in the UK are paying 38% of Europe's total Scotch Whisky tax take.
Despite being made domestically - as all Scotch Whisky must be produced in Scotland - Scotch consumed in the UK is taxed at one of the highest rates in Europe, with 76% of the price of an average bottle made up of tax (Vat and excise duty).
Other European countries pay significantly less tax on the average bottle. Germany's tax rate is 45%, for instance, while rates in Italy and Spain are 44% and 41% respectively.
This means that the UK's tax rate is actually 1.5 times the average paid by other European countries (49%), contributing to £8.6 million paid in tax to HMRC each day by UK spirits drinkers.
David Frost, Scotch Whisky Association chief executive, said: "The Chancellor needs to Stand Up For Scotch again in next week's Budget and cut excise duty on Scotch Whisky by 2%. Another cut will help deliver growth in this iconic British industry, while providing a fairer level of tax for Scotch Whisky drinkers in the UK."
Jonathan Isaby, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "High taxes are holding back our most successful industries and the Budget is the perfect time for the Chancellor to cut duties on drinks. Not only will this ease the pressure on hard-pressed taxpayers, but it will create the conditions for jobs and growth. Past cuts have been hugely successful so George Osborne should seize the opportunity and show that he is on the side of both consumers and businesses."
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Exports, including exports of whisky, do not attract UK duty.
Therefore, no 'whisky export duty' revenue is allocated to Scotland
Duty is applied at the point of exit from the Bond, BUT Customs & Excise trace the product from the production line and make adjustments to the duty if for example a Cask or Barrel falls of the belt a Barrel is about 36 gallons( and make a serious mess)
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Vivc113 wrote: As JD said, it has been years of a country run by thugs
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sorry, but JD did not say that.
JD.
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Well... as good as .... "mismanagement = thugs".

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I can't see why we would want to be independent from a union that shares a common language, customs and monetary system, only to give up our independence to a union that shares few of our customs and speaks numerous different languages, and would demand our use of the dreaded euro.

Scotland, if it is Independence we seek, let us go the whole hog and trade with the whole world and forget about being tied to the European dictatorship.
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meekan wrote:
Scotland, if it is Independence we seek, let us go the whole hog and trade with the whole world and forget about being tied to the European dictatorship.
I agree with that. Not having EU "Judges" telling us we can't deport criminals back to whence they came.

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[quote="stivis

Scottish Government
Exports, including exports of whisky, do not attract UK duty.
Therefore, no 'whisky export duty' revenue is allocated to Scotland
Duty is applied at the point of exit from the Bond, BUT Customs & Excise trace the product from the production line and make adjustments to the duty if for example a Cask or Barrel falls of the belt a Barrel is about 36 gallons( and make a serious mess)[/quote]

If the Whisky is in a Bonded Warehouse in the South Coast of England ,waiting to be exported then duty is paid there.

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“He that has no fools, knaves, nor beggars in his family, was begot by a flash of lightning.” Thomas Fuller
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Vivc113 wrote:Well... as good as .... "mismanagement = thugs".

:lol:
Well, not quite Viv. "mismanagement " = managing incompetently. "thugs" = violent individuals
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Well... I am sorely tempted to call lots of them exactly that. As an example, what they have done to the rights of disabled people is a complete abuse. Not to mention inane attacks on the disabled caused by this Government.

In other news the statue of Donald Dewar has been vandalised by 'YES' people after a demo yesterday in Glasgow. If this is nationalism, you can stick it.
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